Egregores, or Group Minds

Some people link the concept of a group-mind to the idea of an egregore. A kind of reality or consensus builds up and, even though other members are not present, people may act in accordance with that reality or belief system. It ties in with what happens in cults, workplaces and so on. Some cultures place importance on family and ancestors, and believe that current family members may be strongly influenced by traumas or actions of predecessors, or can be possessed by them, or by other forces. There is also a term 'overshadowing', where one seems to write or do something from out of nowhere, as if influenced by something 'other'. And many people have experienced a kind of telepathy with a person they are close to, simply knowing when something is wrong in their life.

You may or may not believe in Souls, but it is of vital importance to protect your boundaries, and not get caught up in what others are up to, who may have a trick up their sleeve and know how to manipulate others, for good or ill. Some sensitivities or traits do seem to be hereditary, and we can only do our best to make sense of them. If you have had a family member who suddenly behaves differently, or can no longer manage certain tasks, it can seem as though they somehow use your circuits for getting by. Similarly, you may share office space with someone who, through no fault of their own, has mood swings or is just not functioning well. Try to get some time and space for yourself. Some people may have insight into what is wrong with them, and others not.

Where Do Aliens Come Into This?

Maybe they don't, or maybe we don't know how they could do. Elsewhere I refer to a TV programme called Ancient Aliens, which claims that 'ancient astronaut theorists' hypothesise various interventions regarding human nature and destiny. Usually I list books neatly to show where or how I came to think certain lines of enquiry useful. Scroll to the bottom of the page for names of some authors who have delved into these areas. There is so much of it, and everyone has their own take on things that we cannot prove, and may be off-the-wall. Some alleged contactees or experiencers may come across as being good fantasists, or likely to be 'histrionic', but we don't know that is always the situation.

Two things are of interest:

1) A number of academics and researchers coming from various standpoints have got together to present a strange scenario which may have relevance for us today, with roots in very distant time & space;

2) Many and varied groups or cults feel they were contacted, or are being influenced, by peoples with knowledge or experience of different worlds and beings.

This is diving into the deep-end, and I would rather not get too involved in waffling over something not really my subject. I think we could do with considering likely implications, because clearly not everyone's experiences or beliefs coincide. My point is that some knowledgeable and astute people have come to the conclusion that there are other types of being, who may be in conflict with us or with each other. More importantly perhaps, large numbers of ordinary people have beliefs on these issues that substantially affect individual and group behaviour. How do we handle that? Might others, for reasons of their own, take pride in manipulating the beliefs, and thereby the actions of others, or by confusing or denigrating them? One way of feeling power, but it is devastating for the victims and people around them, that's for sure.

A book on egregores worth looking up is:

#Egregores: The #Occult Entities That Watch Over Human Destiny by #Mark #Stavish: #collective #group #mind; #protective #measures; #beliefs amazon.co.uk/dp/1620555778/…

Crime, Cults, Influence

Recently I came across 'Ancient Aliens' on TV, watching with half-attention. But then it got into how various cult leaders based their activities on ideas of influence from other beings or realms. Whether or not that could have happened, a lot of people became influenced one way or another. A prime example would be Heaven's Gate, see more at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Applewhite. A number of cult founders claim to have had contact with other types of Being and to have received instruction from them. Who is to say that it cannot happen? But might it be for the sole benefit or power of something we do not understand, an agenda that harms those sucked in?

When it comes to certain crimes, or what most people regard as cruel or senseless behaviour, it can be much the same: acting on a belief or fantasy, or maybe actual experience. Some people naturally hear voices or see visions. Some serial killers use a defence that they were instructed or compelled to commit atrocities by something outside of themselves. They could be pathological, deluded, ill, evil, obsessed, or anything, but it would be facile to assume it is all a con trick, and that we cannot be influenced by forces that the majority of us do not see or hear. See Full Circle post at https://notincharacter.blogspot.com/2019/01/blog-post_54.html

 


A theory I feel worth looking into refers to our endocrine system, which some esoteric writers link to chakras. If it is somehow possible to activate a part of someone's system, or deactivate rational thinking, one can indeed induce very base behaviour. It happens in groups and crowds. Of interest to me, is when an individual, couple or small group, get started on a course of action that seems to take on a life and impetus of its own. Nothing stops the escalation, and only some participants may ever realise what they took part in.


More at 'What About Secret Societies?' https://groupsandminds.blogspot.com/2019/03/blog-post_16.html

Also see the post on Exopolitics at https://groupsandminds.blogspot.com/2019/03/blog-post_20.html

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Some Dynamics of Cults & Abuse

Searching for Meaning

When I became concerned over accounts of ritual abuse, I went to lectures, mixed around, got a shed-load of books, my usual efforts towards getting answers to questions. I sat at a talk where suddenly the lecturer said he thought some experiences of multiple personalities were likely to be when people got 'stuck in their archetypes', and we spoke afterwards. It is over my head and not my usual way of thinking. However I feel it worth considering. Also people can act as though they are influenced by characters on-screen or in books, and emulate people they come across. So what really is character or personality, today and many years down the line?

Just as we do different things at different times in the day, we will have different emphasis or purpose at different times of life, handling things as best we can. There are likely to be a few people who tend to help, or some who hinder. The stuff of myth and fairy tales perhaps.

Why Have I Done this?

Recently, someone who has known me a long time said: 'You know, you can be virtually anyone's fool, because you are too inclined to believe what people tell you.' Yes, and the World would be a poorer place if we did not make some allowances. What I can say, is that had I known or suspected certain things to be true, there are some people I would have distanced myself from, forgoing anything I gained. I'd probably have made the mistake then, of trying to explain it to them directly, or to other people; I was more naive and forthright then. Hopefully there is something in these pages that helps you in any such dilemma. Over the years I have respected or admired certain people, who seemed decent and committed to ideals. I cannot answer for some of their actions, though they have since been called into question over child sexual abuse. Nothing has been proved about them, so the main problem seems to be rumours about their colleagues, generalising to others associated with them. There is an Internet looseness or hyper-alacrity, where things are repeated, passed on and taken as proof. That can happen to anyone.

Two people whose conduct also came into question were involved in counselling or training, I had no inkling about them, and literally found out by accident: Too good to be true perhaps? Or some people may have had an axe to grind over them. I did wonder about the power motivation of some of our tutors, when things slipped out that they said, but we did not have the full picture. Before anyone claims that, if one has any questions or doubts about adult behaviour towards children, they should speak up, until 6 or 7 years ago, many people, even with training, did not consider adults would engage in sexual behaviour with young girls, and quite predominantly taking advantage of boys in vulnerable situations such as children's homes. Now, it seems that any organisation comes under scrutiny, with the inference that people should have known or done something. Some people must have known, and things were kept under wraps, but it was not in books in the UK till the 1990's, mainly dealing with what was happening in other countries. PIE held local meetings in the late 70's trying to spread their beliefs.

People were aware that abuse happened to some pupils at boarding school, with a few teachers considered deviant. A few priests or nuns might be sexually deviant, or just cruel. Incest was known to happen in some families. Some boys were forced to sell themselves to survive. The matter of ritual abuse in children's homes was raised. But all these issues were relatively confined. As survivors became more willing or able to speak up, they were wanting more help and, in some cases, notoriety or vendetta. Whether there was some design to stir things up, while not providing enough services, I leave to your imagination. Now everyone is deluged with allegations or insinuations, sometimes very publicly reaching court, and we have a maelstrom into which anyone dives, splitting into factions. You may disagree with me, or on some points, but please don't just discredit them wholesale. We need to start somewhere.

There does seem to be a convergence between some cultlike behaviour or leaders, and the sexual and other abuse or control of members, particularly women and children. Of interest to me is that some female cult members or associates get kudos from enforcing cult rules, even procuring people for victimisation or trafficking. I do not know to what extent they are put up to it by someone high in cult ranks, or through other pressures they may be subject to. There could even be a genetic factor. Some people who hear gruelling accounts about ritual abuse, may believe it is widespread. If they are called upon to engage with perpetrators involved with those victims, they are unlikely to think that it never happens. The dynamics of ritual abuse seem to underpin more general cultlike or manipulative behaviour - of any kind, and including some crimes or coverups.

And there I will leave it, lest you may think I am really losing the drift! Fuller information can be found on the main Website, particularly http://www.measures.we.bs/meaning.html

Two further Blogs on consensus beliefs, memes/viruses are now up at https://endishtimes.blogspot.com and https://mindcluk.blogspot.com

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